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September 01, 2007 – Whole New Mind Author Dan Pink

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Rob:Welcome to the show. I am Rob McNealy and I am your host, and this is Startup Story Radio. We are here to inspire and motivate you to become a successful entrepreneur. We know that you’re more likely to be a millionaire if you work for yourself. And we’re hoping that this show is going to help you do that. If you have any questions or you have any ideas or great business ideas, or just need some information from us about starting your own business, feel free to give us a call. Our number here at the studio is 303-713-7600. And you can always see us on our website, which is at

On our website we have a lot of stuff about the show. We have forums, all sorts of interesting blogs and articles. Also, information about upcoming guests. If you want to IM us during the show, well you can do so at AOL Instant Messenger. All you have to do is go to our website, it’s and click the link and just type in Startup Story. I’d also like to think Tony Burtrum running our board today, and we have running shotgun with us today is David Fox and today we have a very interesting guest. His name is Dan Pink. Dan Pink is an author of two influential business books. His latest, Whole New Mind, charts the rise of right brain thinking in modern economics and explains the six abilities individuals and organizations must master in an outsource and automated world.

Dan’s first book, Free Agent Nation, is about the growing ranks of people that work for themselves, was a Washington Post best seller and a business best seller in the U.S. and in Canada. Dan is a contributing editor of Wired where he has written about topics ranging from grass roots solar power to the rise of Wikipedia to the economics of creativity. His articles on business, technology, and economic transformation also appeared in the New York Times, Harvard Business Review, Fast Company and other publications. A popular speaker, Dan lectures at corporations, associations, and universities around the world. A free agent himself, Dan held his last real job in the White House of all places where he served from 1995 to 1997 as the chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He’s also work to U.s. aide Secretary of labor Robert Weiss, as an economic policy staffer in the U.S. Senate, a legal researcher in India, and latran builder and bata latrine builder in Baswana. Dan Pink, how are you doing today?




Good. Well it sounds like you’ve done absolutely everything in the world.


Not quite, there’s a long list.


Well, I really appreciate you coming on the show, and I think our listeners are in for a really treat. Most people don’t understand how radio works. Oftentimes when people have books, their publishers send the books out and then try to get radio shows to interview them. That was not the case of Dan Pink. I am personally a fan of Dan Pink and have fully read both of his books. And then after I read his books, I was very intrigued and interested, so I actually contacted Dan directly to bring him on the show. So Dan, I again, really appreciate you coming on the show. I am a really big fan. And you’re the author of two great books. Can you tell our audience a little bit about them?


Sure, and thanks. I’m glad that you picked them up and read them and they were useful to you. The first book I have has been out for several years and that’s call Free Agent Nation and it’s about the rise of people working for themselves. It talks about why there are so many people who are leaving big organizations or getting thrown from big organizations and who are deciding to start their own operations, not necessarily to grow a big huge company out of it, but to lead a better life. The book talks about how it happens and what it looks like and then has a bunch of tools and tips and things for people to get better at it.


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